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This group interview is chock full of expert advice from 32 of planet earth’s best dating coaches and pickup artists.
You’ll discover how to pick up girls in both the day and night time, with solutions to some of the most challenging situations you can imagine.
We had a lot of fun putting this interview together and would like to thank everyone who got involved! Be sure to visit the experts’ sites to learn how they can help you pick up more girls and get a girlfriend.
Picking up girls in 7 situations
Whether you’re on the street, the beach or up against 2 sets, large groups, or HB10s in a bar, this post has the answers.
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NOTE: Responses listed in the order they were received in per situation.
QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to approach and pick up a girl in the street, what 3 pointers would you give him?
Tony D | Absolute Ability
1) 2 minute rule. Most guys worry far too much about “What to say.” The truth is, you don’t need to be a verbal ninja to pick up girls in the daytime. Instead of worrying about what to say, focus on staying in the interaction for two minutes. Talk about the weather, talk about your Xbox. Let go of the pressure of being a witty guy, and instead, focus on staying in the interaction for 2 minutes, even if you consider your conversation topics to be boring. Staying in is the only way to learn verbal game.
2) Watch your seeking rapport tonality. Most newbies have this annoying, upwards vocal inflection. It sounds like a beggar asking for change. “What are you doing today?” Instead, keep either a neutral rapport like you would use while talking to your best friend, or a breaking rapport, downwards inflection that sounds like your boss telling you to work faster. Either is better. Record yourself on your cellphone if you’re not sure what you sound like.
3) Quit making excuses. “She has headphones,” “She’s in a group,” “She’s on the phone,” “She’s in a women’s lingerie store.” When I teach a bootcamp no matter what the perceived difficulty, there is always a way to make it happen. Don’t let these little excuses and justifications stop you from meeting the girl of your dreams.
Tony D is a dating/lifestyle coach and the author of two popular books: A Thousand Tiny Failures – Memoirs of a Pickup Artist and I Hope It’s Sunny Out – a Guide to Meeting Women in the Daytime. Tony believes there is no one “method” to picking up girls, so custom designs his coaching programs to highlight his students’ natural advantages. Follow Tony on Twitter @TonyDAbsolute
Steve Jabba | Authentic PUA
1) Sort out the low hanging fruit and go for quick wins first.
Optimise your aesthetic – fashion, hair, grooming, and try to figure out your “style”. Peacock congruently in a way that you are comfortable with, but aim to stand out as much as possible. As a general rule of thumb you can’t go wrong with a really good leather jacket – most guys look great in one. You’ll want to aim for 2 peacocking items per outfit.
If you’re a bit vertically challenged then get boots / shoes with a good Cuban heel – usually max increase of 1.75 inches. Height increasing shoes also can make a big difference but (i) they are usually ugly and (ii) they fu*k up your feet and make you walk like you’ve got a banana stuck up your arse. Not good for swagger!
That takes care of 75% of it but longer term you’re aiming for a good diet, and definitely gym work. Not only does it improve posture but it also makes you look more aesthetic and (in my opinion) gives you that GRRRR masculine aggression which is a good thing.
This is common sense advice but you’d be amazed how many guys I meet who don’t take it.
2) Do not overthink it. I see this a lot. Don’t try and “plan out” the interaction. Have maybe 2 – 3 openers ready – simple ones – and focus your attention on (i) conveying your interest to her in a no nonsense way and (ii) giving her a specific compliment when you talk to her. NOT A ROTE ONE!
When you walk up to talk to her, you’re optimum state is to have a clear mind, not thinking about anything and focussing instead on her body, her ass, just appreciate her feminity, her beauty. Don’t think about it, let it flow through you and something that you love about her look / voice / vibe will pop into your head when you talk to her. Say what pops into your head, without censoring it, tell her what you like about her. Focus on that.
The first 30 seconds are the most difficult. If you can get past that then you are on your way.
Do not worry about what to say – focus on the above. Pauses and silences are actually good if you are comfortable with it and don’t rush to fill them.
Remember if she likes you on some level, she won’t make it difficult – she’ll help you along.
Pro tip : If you’re starting to panic – ask her a basic, low key question like “so what you up to”…Then you can say something like “well do you mind if I walk with you” – and gently start to lead her by a light touch on the arm and begin walking…The social pressure just drops instantly if you’re walking side by side as opposed to standing stock still in the street. You can do this simple little trick even after 30 seconds – 1 minute.
3) Don’t expect perfection, don’t put pressure on yourself. By its nature it can be a little awkward at first. It’s not rocket science though, and she won’t be judging you on your “performance”. I’ve used that word deliberately – because you don’t want to be performing. What you’re aiming for is creating that flow of sexual intrigue / interest between man and a woman. What you say – the content – isn’t really too important. She will forgive moments of awkwardness – infact in some ways a little bit of awkwardness is good because you don’t want to seem like you do it day in day out with 100s of “sets”. It doesn’t work that way.
Be realistic – you won’t get every girl. Things happen that will frustrate you. “Rejection” is normal. But…sometimes the stars align and you can meet a girl and be in bed with her in less than an hour..it blows your mind and makes it all worth it in the end.
Steve Jabba is a natural PUA and master of day game. He teaches men to be direct and put their real personality out there rather than using a mixture of canned routines. Steve’s natural approach to pick up has influenced many of the world’s top PUAs, including Richard La Ruina, who described him as the “best guy I have ever seen gaming”. Check out Steve’s Home Study System where you’ll learn to game like a natural and don’t forget to subscribe to his YouTube channel.
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Ross Jeffries | Speed Seduction
We interviewed Ross about picking up girls on the street via Skype. Here’s the transcript:
Pickup Metrics: If for example you were going to take me to the streets of LA right now and we saw some hot girls walking along the street, how would you advise I go and approach them and get their number?
Ross Jeffries: Well, I wouldn’t do any of that, what I would do first is work with you. I would assess you to see what your current skill set is. Each student I work with personally when I do that, I’m not cheap but I guarantee my work, I think I’m the only person who does.
I’d create a state where you’re grounded in your body and you’re outwardly focussing your attention and you’re playful. Rather than having to get a result you’re perfectly fine and playful whether or not you get the results you want. And I’d also show you how to handle any kind of approach anxiety. So first thing I’d do is make sure you’re in the right state.
The second thing I’d do is show you how to make sure we’d do what I call a “Bail Out Anchor”, which means if you’re in the field and you start to collapse again I would show you something to do to get back in the state.
I also want to change your metaphor. The idea of approaching someone. I don’t like that metaphor, because it implies that you’re going up to them somehow and when you say “walk up” it implies something, it eliminates the possibility of walking beside someone or talking to someone who happens to be in a coffee shop. I don’t like the metaphor. It’s a bad metaphor.
I just would prefer to think of it as engaging people in a fun way. So, having said all of that, there are a couple of basic approaches that we can use. Oh and there’s one more thing I want to point out – the idea that you wanna get the phone number. This is a common, a huge mistake and the mistake is that guys are aiming for the behaviours they want with women. They want to get the behaviour of “hey give me your phone number”. Well you can walk up to someone and hold a gun to her head and say “give me your phone number or you’re dead” – You got the phone number but did you get your outcome?
So what you really want to do is not get a phone number. You want to create states of intrigue and fascination and curiosity and leaving her and having her hungry for more. Once you do that the phone number becomes secondary.
You know I’ve had situations where I’ve talked to women who were sitting at the bar at a hotel and they’re in town for just the night and I’m not gonna get their phone number, they wanna go upstairs.
One of the things I teach in Speed Seduction and the things that I think the other morons out there aren’t getting is they’re too focussed on the behaviour. In my experience coming from a background of NLP and Ericsoniun hypnosis, my approach is to say, “wait a minute”, first think about the states of mind and the emotions you want that woman feeling, and how you can create them.
Initially I would help you to create states of curiosity and intrigue and playfulness. In that first five to ten minutes you wanna get her curious, you wanna get her intrigued, you wanna get some playfulness and some comfort and a little bit of sexual tension.
There’s a lot of different ways. There’s so many different ways. Depending on where I’m at. Here in LA we have a lot of these health food stores, you know, they sell organic food and vitamins and all that other stuff, so I’ll walk down the aisle and make some kind of comment based on what’s going on, doesn’t matter. Then I’ll say, “two questions, are you allergic to cats and do you smoke?” They have to say “no and no”. If they say yes, then I’ll say “sorry deal killer”, because those are deal killers. But if they say “no and no” I’ll say “great, because any other answer would be a deal killer. I think you’re kind of cute”. And so right away I’m coming in and just creating a little bit of fun and curiosity. Something like that.
I’ve done things like, make a comment to a woman, comment about anything. And then I’ll say “so are you ready?”, and they say “ready for what?”, and I’ll say “ready for your reward for all those horrible dates that you’ve been going out on”. Then I introduce myself and say I’m so and so etc.
Here’s one that’s worked for me multiple times:
Let’s say you see a woman in a restaurant, or she’s sitting down somewhere. Let’s say for whatever reason you don’t feel particularly comfortable walking right up to her (I’ve done this many times). What I will do is I’ll see her and then I’ll pretend to walk away or I’ll actually walk out the restaurant, then I’ll turn around, come back and say “excuse me, I was leaving, actually I took a couple of steps out the door but when I saw you, you stopped me dead in my tracks and I had to come and talk to you”. That’s so flattering like WOW – I stopped dead in my tracks! Or you can even do it if you’re in passing in the street. You walk over and say “excuse me, I was going that way but when I saw you, you stopped me dead in my tracks and I had to come over”. See?
Pickup Metrics: How would you then quickly escalate the sexual tension?
Ross Jeffries: Let’s be very clear about something. I don’t teach things to progress in a linear way. Let me give you a metaphor here. Imagine we have a ball, like a sphere the size of a soccer ball and it’s empty and transparent. I put a little bit of playfulness and humour and I bounce it over to the girl. She kind of feels it, maybe puts some humour back in and bounces it back to me. Maybe I then put something in to get her curiosity going and bounce it back to her. Maybe she puts in some sincerity and bounces it back to me. Or maybe she puts in some sexual tension. I don’t know.
Sooner or later that ball grows so big, now it’s not something I’m bouncing back and forth between she and I, now it’s grown so big we both have our hands on it at the same time and with just a little bit of will, a little bit of intent, that ball suddenly becomes something that surrounds the two of us. I’m using a metaphor here because I don’t like the idea that first you get comfort, then you get something else. It’s better than having guys flail away but it’s not really accurately mapping the way things work.
The fact in the matter is that humans, particularly women, can have simultaneous emotions going on at the same time. And they can jump back and forth between them. Trying to do things in a linear fashion, which is the way I taught back in the nineties – it’s better than having nothing to do, but it’s not the closest match.
So there’s a lot of ways to build the sexual part, a lot of that is leaning into her space, creating a sexual vibe in my own body that’s very subtle, so no matter what I do it’s conveyed in my voice, it’s conveyed in how long I keep eye contact, it’s conveyed in me putting in some sexual metaphors, like I’ll say “you certainly seem like someone who wants to feel a very large happiness in your life, in fact, someone who finds it easily to find a happiness”.
The important thing before wondering about conveying sexual tension or a sexual vibe is how do you create it in yourself. So it has got the following qualities, because the distinction between a sexual vibe and a horny vibe is this – a sexual vibe is grounded, meaning you feel your feet on the ground.
One of the exercises I would teach you and anyone who wants private coaching through me is to put 20% of their attention on the feeling of their feet on the ground at all times. All times, all times. So it’s grounded in the body.
Second it has a dominant flavour to it. You can have a sexual vibe but it’s passive. So it’s dominant and it’s subtle. Guys who come on like mmmm nice body baby – they’re dominant and they can be grounded but it’s too obvious. It’s grounded, it’s dominant, it’s subtle and finally it’s playful.
A lot of this is inner work. I’ll teach you how to create that. Creating that involves working with your body, working with your breath and working with movement. This is why I’m more and more moving my business to working with people personally because this is not the easiest thing to teach at a seminar. I prefer to work with people personally now.
Let me give you a metaphor: If I took a sheet of copper and a sheet of cardboard and I said to you I want you to send an electric current down both of these, which one is going to conduct the electricity better?
Pickup Metrics: The copper.
Ross Jeffries: Of course. You know that. So considering your vibe could be a conductive medium, then your communication – anything you actually say or do is the current that you send down it.
So if you’re walking around you could have the best current in the world, you know, great electrons, high quality electrons but if your conductive medium is cardboard it’s not gonna get you too much. You’re still gonna rely on luck. And this is why I emphasises your conductive medium, if you get the metaphor is that inner state – your inner state. And it has got more to do with confidence, I mean confidence is nice but you can’t just be confident. Once definition is you’re just certain. It can be a false certainty. But it’s not embodied. You can say I teach embodied confidence if you want. It’s very, very, very important. I’m not talking about body language, or working out here…
…I want you to think of it like this. If you do a martial art, if you’re a boxer, the first thing they teach you is the footwork. Then they teach you to punch. They teach you balance and footwork. Balance, footwork and awareness. So think of it like a martial art. I’m training that bit first. And you can see the problem with every other teacher is they’re not getting into this level of depth. They’re misdefining confidence as only being certain. By the way, how can you be certain that you’ll do something right when you don’t have a history of doing something right?
Listen. Fake it till you make it is better than not doing anything at all. I’m not saying that what other Pickup Artists are teaching is totally wrong, it’s vastly incomplete. But it’s better than nothing.
If you’re interested in private coaching, what we do first is conduct a free 15 minute Skype interview. I usually take about half the people. (I only work with people when I can guarantee their results). If you’re interested in coaching with me just write ross [at] seduction [dot] com – subject: Private Coaching.
And finally, I’ll be coming to England in either June or July, I’ll be co-teaching a co-seminar with Haley Quinn, who I consider the only person in the world worthy to share a stage with me. Hayley is killing it and she’s only a kid compared to me.
Dubbed the Daddy of seduction, Ross Jeffries has been in the game since 1988. He published his first book, How to Get the Women You Desire Into Bed in 1992, which was originally stapled together on his mother’s kitchen table. He also used to send out a “How to Get Laid” newsletter that he’d print out and mail to people and get mailed back. (There was no internet back then). Ross taught his first seminar in 1992 and became famous for pioneering the use of NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) techniques into pickup. He has been in the game for going on 23 years now and when he says he’s taught tens of thousands of people face to face in seminars that’s not marketing – he’s actually done that. He was featured in The Game, the critically acclaimed book by Neil Strauss, and Tom Cruise played a character loosely based on him in the movie Magnolia. He also created Speed Seduction – one of the first and most ground breaking PUA products to ever hit the market. Click here to visit his blog and be sure to subscribe to his popular YouTube Channel.
Chris Manak | Manic Workshops
There is no way I could choose just 3, so I’ve managed to answer with 5.
1) When walking past her, look for eye contact, and/or something that you could open with (something about her, something to comment on, etc.). Regardless of if she notices you or not, or if you notice anything specific or not, soon after she passes you, turn back and approach her from the side (not from behind).
2) Excuse yourself (“Excuse me …”). If you just start talking, you will startle and confuse her, and you will likely be ignored. You need to get her attention. This should stop her. Pay attention to if and how she stops. The ideal is that she both stops, and faces you.
3) Open her. Whatever it is that you wanted to say to her, now is the time. What was it that you noticed about her? Was she dressed interestingly? Was there something that you noticed about her? Was it simply that she was beautiful?
4) Contextualize your opener. Give her some depth so that you’re not coming off as random and scripted.
– “Hi I just saw you and I thought you were really cute”
– “Hi, I know that this is really random for the street, you’re probably heading home from work or something, but I just walked right past you with my friend up and there and I thought ‘Wow I have to go back and talk to that woman'”.
5) If it doesn’t land – next! It’s nothing personal, you just don’t click with some people. If it lands, make some chitchat for a few minutes, tell her that you will let her get back to whatever it was that she was going, and close! Don’t walk off without asking for that phone number.
Chris Manak is one of the most successful dating coaches in the Australian industry. He has 10 years of personal experience under his belt with enough interactions, dates and stories to fill a small library. He has taught hundreds of men to take their game to new levels and is not afraid to tell his clients the truth – whether it’s good, bad or downright ugly in order to facilitate true growth. Manic Workshops is not about theories but about practicality, taking action and ensuring students go out and meet women by unleashing their best, most confident self. Visit his site – ManicWorkshops.com.
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Johnny Berba | JohnnyBerba.com
Tips for picking up girls in the street:
1) STATE: I would highly recommend he gets in state before going for a pickup: State building exercise compliment 10 girls and leave right away 🙂
2) Being DIRECT: secondly I recommend he is direct and honest no small talk ( In the first 30 seconds should be playful and giving of a fun vibe!)
3) Listening: I strongly recommend listening to what the girl says which will give you all the material you need to keep the conversation going.
Johnny Berba, a strong advocate of attracting women naturally, lives and breathes daygame. His journey started in his early twenties when he spent two years with a naturally charismatic guy learning the key principles of interacting and attracting the opposite sex. He’s since mastered daygame and goes out everyday to attract and pick up beautiful girls on the streets of London. Watch him in action on YouTube and if you want one on one coaching head on over to JohnnyBerba.com.
Matt Artisan | The Attractive Man
I’m going to reveal to you the 3 crucial core concepts to remember when picking up a girl on the street if you want her to be instantly attracted to you. If you don’t do these three things that I’m about to show you then you risk looking desperate, needy, and try-hard and ultimately ending up in the friend zone.
CRUCIAL CONCEPT NUMERO UNO: Be Direct. Anytime you are approaching a girl during the day you need to be honest and genuine. Asking her an opinion about something that you don’t really care about doesn’t work effectively because women are intuitive and can sense that you are “beating around the bush”. No woman wants a guy who is dishonest. So be direct and truthful in your approach.
If you are walking up to her because you find her attractive then just tell her that. Be unapologetic about your approach and she will appreciate your honest and will be impressed by your courage.
If you go indirect then you risk wasting her time (because people are busy during the day) and ending up in the friend zone because she won’t know that you are “hitting on her”.
CRUCIAL CONCEPT NUMERO DOS: Be Bold. Women are attracted to powerful, confident, masculine leaders. This is no secret. She will feel your power (or lack there of) in your bold language, tonality and other non-verbal sub communication.
So make sure you tonality is loud, but not overbearing, and authoritative. Your posture should be erect. You should be standing directly in front of her arms distance apart. Any further than that will make you seem afraid of her, which will instantly kill the attraction.
CRUCIAL CONCEPT NUMERO TRES: Give Her The Look. There’s a certain look that you can give a woman that will make her melt. When done correctly, you convey primal sexual confidence through strong eye contact and with the way you are feeling inside. If you are scared and timid, she will feel it. If you are bold and confident, she will feel that.
Look deep into her eyes with a soft gaze and sly smirk that conveys “I will ravish you tonight and have my way with you”. She will read your sub-communicated suggestion and feel and instant surge of uncontrollable unconscious sexual desire. For an example check out the movie Top Gun or watch the scene in The Aviator where Leonardo DiCaprio seduces the cigarette girl in under a minute.
So here’s the deal, if you want to really learn how to do this stuff then get my 100% free video series on “How to Get a Hot Date in 3-Minutes” where I reveal a simple strategy to spark attraction and get a woman chasing you in less than 3-minutes. Go to TheAttractiveMan home page to get the videos. Live Bold and Be The Attractive Man.
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QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to pick up a girl who’s with a group of friends on the beach what 3 pointers would you give him?
Johnny Wolf | ABCs of Attraction
Living near the beach in California, and hanging out in beaches throughout Australia, Bali and Thailand I’ve had my fair share of beach approaches. The most difficult beach approaches I’ve done are during what I call “Topless Swedish Girl Season” which happens in February every year in Thailand.
Use the following three tricks to approach all girls on the beach, and if they’re not topless, even easier!
1. Dress like you’re on the beach. If you’re in a t-shirt, shoes, and long pants, you’ll look out of place and look like a creeper. But if you’re in board shorts, barefoot and look like you’re enjoying yourself it comes off as very natural to approach.
It helps if you’re a bit tanned and in decent shape as well, don’t let those be excuses not to approach girls on the beach but also stop lying to yourself. The time you spend reading eBooks and posting on PUA forums you could be dedicating to making yourself actually attractive.
2. Have a prop or reason to approach. If you surf, walk up with your board. If you’re promoting an event or party for your friends, perfect. Even walking up with a coconut in hand helps. It’s perfectly okay to approach groups of girls on the beach, but it’s much easier if you actually have a reason to.
For me I’ll have girls hold my guide book and take a photo for my travel blog, or ask them if they are going to the upcoming beach party. Be careful though not to get stuck talking about that prop all day and ejecting. Talk about it briefly and then transition the conversation into something more personal, and you’re in.
3. Take off the shades and make eye contact!
It seems like it would be a good idea to look cool in your sunglasses but I’ve split tested both and it’s easier to build comfort during a beach cold approach if you let the girls see your eyes.
Remember your goal is to build enough comfort with the group and then isolate the girl you actually like.
The successful beach pickups I’ve had included meeting a girl that was tanning and asking her to play beach volleyball with me after 20 minutes of chit chat, and also getting another girl to go with me to the snack bar.
Don’t be afraid of letting everyone in the group know which girl you’re interested in, it’s the entire point!
A lead-instructor for ABC’s of Attraction, Johnny Wolf is considered by many to be one of the best PUA Bootcamp instructors in the world. Over the last 5 years Johnny has been turning unconfident guys into attractive, alpha ladies men by instilling his students with the rock-hard alpha presence he achieved himself after breaking through the typical Asian stereotype. He’s a frequent traveller and teaches bootcamps around the world. Find out where he’ll be next on his personal blog and don’t forget to like ABCs of Attraction on Facebook and subscribe to their YouTube Channel.
QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to pick up a girl who’s in a large mixed group in a bar, what 3 pointers would you give him?
Clifford Lee | Cliff’s List
1) As soon as you walk in a bar, start talking to someone, anyone. Not only will it get you moving but people will notice you and be curious about you. It will make speaking to women much easier afterwards.
2) Merge sets (introduce people to each other). Be the host or the “mayor” and get people talking to each other. Do this without any ulterior motive to pick up a woman – just do it to be sociable and to be generous. People (both men and women) will appreciate this and reciprocate.
3) Unless you are getting very definite signals, close your interactions with women by proposing some social reason to stay in touch instead of for dating purposes. If you tell her you are planning to host this big party and would like to invite her, she will be more comfortable to give you her number than if you ask for it because you want to take her on a date.
From there you can start communicating with her and if you do it without the pressure of your wanting to date her hanging in the air, you will come across as a normal, good guy and she will most likely be more interested than if you hit on her. Let her do some of the work in converting this relationship to a personal one.
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Jon Sinn | Sinns of Attraction
Picking up a girl in a large mixed set is one of the more difficult things you can attempt. If you’re going to try it, then you want to follow these 3 pointers.
1) Approach at the right angle. Big groups are going to break up. If you are approaching a girl in a mixed group of 5 people, you want to make sure you approach close enough to the girl you want to talk to. That way no matter how the group breaks up, you’ll be close enough to hit on her.
Don’t feel the need to entertain the whole group either. Remember that your goal is to get into a one on one conversation with the girl you’re attracted with, not entertain the group.
2) Ask “How do you guys know each other?” This is vital for two reasons:
First it lets you know if the guy(s) are romantically involved with the girl you’re interested in.
Secondly it’s an easy way to plan your next move. Generally there will be one of three types of relationships:
i) They will be dating, in which case you can use the group for social proof for a while before moving on.
ii) They will be friends/acquaintances/work together, in this case you are free to hit on the girl and as soon as the rest of the group is disarmed (Just meaning they are not actively going out of their way to cockblock you) you want to try to isolate the girl you like.
iii) They will have just met, in this case you want to slowly start to ignore the guys (in a friendly non confrontational or rude way) and eventually within 5 minutes or so isolate all the girls away from the guys.
3) Isolate and then gather logistics. You want to get the girl isolated as quickly as you can because while you can get attraction and intrigue in a group, the real pick up is done one on one where you can qualify, build compliance and get sexual. So you want to isolate quickly by whatever means necessary.
I’ve isolated by buying girls drinks, saying it’s too loud over here, grabbing the girls hand and leading and more. The key is to go for it, the how is less important as long as you have a reason.
Once I’ve isolated and qualified I want to find out her logistics or how she got to the bar/club/whatever. So I’ll ask “Did you guys meet here or all get together to pre-party?” At this point she’s going to tell me whether she drove herself (the best option), came with friends she can leave (2nd best), or is the driver for her friends (worst).
Now I know whether or not I can go for a same night lay. Most of my same night lays have come from mixed groups as most girls drive themselves and most big groups are work or birthday related In my experience.
Voted #1 Pick-up Artist in the World by TSB Magazine, Jon Sinn teaches a no bullshit, practical approach to meeting & seducing the women you want. Jon was instructing back in the Mystery Method days before becoming a popular instructor with the Love Systems team. He then set up Sinns of Attraction – a PUA company based on teaching his own style of pick up focussing on natural attraction. He recently released a new product – Effortless Conversation System, that teaches you how to become a Master at having effortless conversations with hot women.
Cajun | Love Systems
1) If you’re honest and respectful nothing bad will happen even if you go very direct.
“Hey I don’t know if one of these guys is your boyfriend, but you’re fucking gorgeous and I wanted to say hi. What’s your name.”
If her boyfriend is present he/she will say so. Just say, “Ahh I thought so, you’re a lucky guy she’s the hottest girl in here.” Good chance he’ll buy you a drink for making her night and being a bro. Plus try to hook you up with her friends.
2) Odds are the guys with her are friends, coworkers or guys stuck in the friend zone. If you come in confident and don’t care about anything other than saying the truth (she’s hot) the guys will blow themselves out trying to “save” her.
Guy: Who are you dude?
You: (To her) Sorry am I interrupting something?
3) If you’re unreactive and the guys still try to strongarm you, leave it up to her to fix while framing them negatively.
“Looks like your friends are a bit jealous. Flash me some eyes when they’re not breathing down your neck. I want to talk to you.”
Cajun is known for his rock solid confidence and was described as “The pinnacle” and “The best guy we’ve seen” on the hit TV show “Keys to the VIP”. The show involves two contestants battling it out in a club to decide who is the better PUA. It’s well worth a watch because Cajun clears up, and the fact he isn’t afraid to display his pick up skills on TV for the world to see just goes to show he’s the real deal. You can watch him in action here. Since mastering pick up Cajun became devoted to helping men reaching the same level he’s at and is now one of the lead instructors at Love Systems.
Jerry Tran | ABCs of Attraction
I completely understand why a guy would be nervous when approaching a big, mixed group and trying to pick up a hot girl.
The first time I tried that, I was TERRIFIED. I remember the first time I was winging Mystery and he sent me into a group of hot blondes with a muscle-bound guy alpha-dogging the group, and I thought I was going to die from the terror. But I quickly learned that mixed groups don’t have to be as alarming as they seem, and that they can actually be an ADVANTAGE if you play your cards right.
With that in mind, here are my three biggest tips for how to master mixed-group approaches:
1) Always pay attention to the guy or to the alpha females in the group first. You are a stranger, an outsider to their group. If you don’t respect the authority of the person who is “in charge” when you approach, they can easily and justifiably cockblock you or tell you to back off for being an intruder. But when you respect the dominant person and gain their respect in turn, not only do you earn your place in the group, you earn the respect of the people watching…including your target.
2) Slowly wean your attention away from the dominant person once you’ve earned your place and start paying more attention to your target. If you don’t give enough attention to your target, she will never know you’re interested and might treat you as just another friend of the group. You do NOT want to become “one of the girls.” You also don’t want to immediately cut the alpha dog off in favor of your target; I like to start with 90-10, 80-20, 70-30, and then finally down to paying complete attention to my target.
3) Once you have your target’s complete and undivided attention, isolate her. This could be as simple as lightly kino turning her away from the group under the guise of directing her attention elsewhere or as bold as grabbing her hand and pulling her away, but either way, your best chances for kiss closing or pulling a girl are when she is away from the judgment of her friends.
A former student of Mystery’s bootcamps, Jerry Tran aka The Asian Playboy is author of The Modern Asian Man and the founder, CEO and lead instructor of ABCs of Attraction – a company dedicated to helping men get better at picking up women. JT is legendary for his ability to turn shy Asian men into confident, alpha pickup artists. Be sure to like ABCs of Attraction on Facebook and subscribe to JT’s YouTube Channel
Blackdragon | BlackdragonBlog
1) Take a big deep breath, let it out, and smile.
2) Remind himself that there are literally thousands of other women within a 15 mile drive of his home who are just as hot, just a smart, and just as cool as this woman could possibly be. He doesn’t need her.
3) Assume her male friends are relaxed, chill guys who will like him.
Blackdragon teaches men how to have open relationships and how to reliably and repeatedly get to sex within 3-4 hours of meeting a woman.
Brian Burke | Go Beyond Dating
The first order of business is to not think about meeting a woman as “picking her up.” This mindset will kill your odds of success, especially if she is in a mixed group. This mindset puts you into a “taking frame,” instead of a “giving frame,” and I assure you, no group wants some random guy to take their friend. Women want to feel “swept away” by a man who knows how to take control. Women do NOT want to feel like the man is getting over on them or taking something from them.
Your power is your degree of internal locus of control (I-LoC), and inversely, your lack of approval-seeking (nApp). Most seduction methods are based on techniques that fake a lack of approval-seeking. However, I-LoC behavior is extremely subtle, and varies with each individual. If you make a conscious effort to present yourself as confident and “alpha,” I assure you there will be a crack in your expression. The nApp-ing will show through. This is why the “fake it til you make it” strategy will actually slow your progress.
Instead, don’t fake it. Be nervous. Be shy. Be insecure. Be vulnerable. And still take action.
The system I teach, ACT Leadership, stands for Awareness, Control, and Thrust. It is based on action, even if you don’t have confident beliefs, or competence applying techniques. I don’t want to wait for confidence or competence. Techniques without beliefs lead to negative feedback. But beliefs take time, and you want results immediately.
Being good with women, and people, is not an acquisition of more beliefs, more skills, or more techniques. It is a subtractive process, getting rid of the cultural conditioning that separates men from women. Once my students get a positive feedback loop, they are ready to learn the advanced material. (I break down ACT completely, with tons basic and advanced tactics you can apply immediately, in my home study course at SexualSupremacy.com).
In this article, I will give you some pointers to optimize your success approaching a woman in a mixed group. Keep in mind, you can’t get any girl, anytime, anywhere. Reality doesn’t work that way. Michael Jordan missed more shots than he made. The good news is, connecting with women is much easier than playing basketball. It’s about as hard as learning to drive a car.
I won’t go into what I say to women, and how I lead conversations. That’s another article. For now, the issue is what to do when:
1. She is with a group, and
2. The group has men in it.
First, some theory on social psychology. There is no such thing as 4-set, or 5-set, etc. In fact, “set” is a term used in magic performances. Don’t think about meeting women as approaching a “set,” because it puts you in a frame of performing for strangers. If you want to perform for strangers, at least put out a hat so people can throw change in it. But don’t expect to have sex with anyone.
In social groups, people break up into sub-groups of 2 and 3. So for practical purposes, you never have to address more than 3 people. If you are extroverted and have something fun to ask or say, address the group. But transition to, and engage the woman of your interest as soon as possible.
I personally never address a group. I tried it a little when I first started learning about pickup 9-10 years ago. Once I realized it was unnecessary, I stopped. I got got much better results being direct, but balancing my sexual desire with social respect. That’s my M.O. in a nutshell. It’s simple and natural, and thus extremely effective and consistent.
The way I see it, I don’t care about those other people, and I don’t like to talk a lot. I want to meet the woman I’ve been checking out. I can handle any interruptions the others give me in a positive, relaxed way, giving respect while garnering it.
I almost never have problems from other men because I don’t look like I’m running game. I have no indication of persona, or being “fake.” I don’t try to be smooth or cool or confident. I am soft spoken but self-assured. I’m sexual but self-effacing. I’m direct but respectful.
I don’t try to talk myself out of any fears. If I feel fear, I accept it and keep moving. I’m quick to make fun of myself, verbalize any insecurities I have, and look down if I’m uncomfortable. But I’m smiling with my eyes the whole time, showing the woman how much she excites me.
I know her secret. I know what turns her on. I know she wants to feel desired, but can’t agree to sex in front of her friends. I show her that I know this. I show her that I know she doesn’t care if I have all the right moves. I don’t try to be witty, smooth, or confident, because I know she’s not attending to my words as much as the thought process behind them. I know this is where her attention is, and she knows I know. She can tell, because of my lack of effort to impress, while at the same time conveying sexuality.
The other guys try to look tough, cool, smart, assertive, etc, but none of that turns her on. She sees that I know I can look down out of shyness, I know I can stutter and then laugh at myself, I know I can be awkward. The fact that I allow myself to be whoever I am, combined with my desire for her makes wet for me.
The other men see this, and there’s an instant respect for me. They have probably never approached a woman so boldly, so there’s the temptation to criticize me, in order to protect their own egos. And yet there is nothing about me they can ridicule. If they try to out-alpha me, or make fun of me, they look weak, worrying they will lose their position in the queue for sex. Women can see the insecurity behind male flexing.
If any men try to interrupt me, they annoy the woman, because she wants to talk to me. If they are actually friends with the woman (or her brother), they will give her space. They see she likes me, and they let her have fun.
Men can be territorial even if they aren’t fucking any of the women in their group. If they do talk to me, they will be respectful, and I will be respectful. That’s all a man wants. If you can let a guy know you respect him, he will stay out of your way.
I never address the group first. I talk to the woman I’m interested in first, and I let her know I have a sexual intention. In other words, I’m direct.
I make eye contact first, before I speak. Sometimes I can walk up and grab her attention with my presence alone. Sometimes if she’s not facing me, I’ll give her a light touch on the upper end of her forearm – close to her elbow, or I will cup her elbow for a second.
The others in the group look at me, then they watch for her reaction to me. If she likes me, they will relax and talk amongst themselves. If the friends are still looking at me, I introduce myself. I won’t go out of my way to shake hands with someone, but I’m not anti-social or lazy. There’s a line between rudeness and trying too hard, that you identify from experience.
I may face the rest of the group for a second to see if they are interested in learning more about me (i.e. they are screening for the woman). If they are, I chat a little. The old, “How do you guys know each other,” works consistently.
I turn back to my woman at about a 90-angle to her – just enough so that I don’t close her or myself off to the others.
I respect the members of the group. If one of her friends is close to me, I talk to him/her long enough so they don’t feel left out. This is crucial if your woman is talking to one other woman. You will need to give the other woman about 30-40 percent of your attention.
Do not try to take over the group. This is the opposite of what typical PUA methods propose. I do not want to be the leader of the group. I do not want to be the alpha. Maybe I will end up as the alpha or whatever, but I absolutely don’t think about that. I don’t want the man, or the “mom”/alpha-female to think I want to take over their territory. I just want to talk to their friend.
These people are friends. You are nobody. You will not be the leader or the alpha male. If you try to be, the other men and “mom” will resent you and get in your way. This is not war. You are not invading a country. Socializing, when done correctly, is the opposite of conflict, achievement, or conquering.
Often when I approach a woman in the middle of conversation, I’ll say, “Excuse me, I don’t me to interrupt,” or “Am I interrupting?” Nine times out of ten they say, “Oh no, it’s OK.” then I either give a compliment to the woman I’m interested in, or I simply lock eyes with her to show her I think she’s sexy, and then ask her name. Simplicity works well for me, because there’s a sexual intensity and social boldness behind it. With the direct approach, I’ve found less does more.
If I happen to approach at a bad time, and the group seems annoyed, I say, “Oh sorry, bad timing. Did I interrupt something important?” If they are at a bar, it’s probably not important.
I never make an effort to take a woman away from her group. If I “extract” her to a couch, she will be looking at me, but thinking about her friends. If she is with her friends, she can see them, but is thinking about me. I’d rather be in her mind now, and in her body later. Also, the friends will see that I don’t want to take her away. This makes them less likely to interrupt me.
The only reason to isolate physically is to make-out. Some may disagree with me, but I don’t like to make out in the bar or club. If she is leaning up for a kiss, I may give her one, just to give her a preview of what’s to come. I use a a slow and sensual kissing technique that gets a woman thinking about me licking her other pair of lips.
Having said this, if people are bumping us or it’s loud and uncomfortable, I will move a woman to more conducive position for us to talk, but not so far away that she can’t see her friends.
Also, dancing is a great way to turn a woman on. Obviously that would require taking her to another area, and being “isolated” in a sense. If the woman seems to want to dance, or you feel like dancing, simply say to her friend, “can I borrow your friend to dance?” And then say “let’s go.”
There are three keys to being good at dancing.
(First let’s define good: she thinks you will be good at f*cking her.)
1. Rhythm. Learn to stay on beat by listening to the music, defocus on the sounds, and feel the repeating speed of the drums.
2. Loose hips, torso, and pelvis.
3. Let her feel your cock – don’t dry hump unless she does first. If you can press it against her just a couple times so that she feels she is exciting you, that will make a huge difference in her motivation to have sex. Remember, a woman is fundamentally turned on by a man’s desire for her.
If you want to take her home, you must appear safe to the rest of the group. Ask them how they are getting home, and if they have a designated driver. Appear concerned about their well-being. Ask the other women how they feel about the venue – have the guys been creepy or respectful?
If there’s a guy who seems to be the protector, jokingly mention how a guy has to be the protector when he’s out with girls. I have a sister, and when I hang out with her and her friends I feel like the bodyguard. I bring this up to other men in the group. Let the protector know you think it’s cool that he’s protective because you are the same way.
Sometimes the protector will be a woman. She’s the “mom” of the group. Do the same thing with her, but add a compliment about her outfit or hair. This is enough to satiate most potential cockblocks. Remember that if you don’t have a game-y persona, most people have no interest in blocking you, because really, they’d be blocking their friend from connecting with a guy she likes.
It’s probably beyond the scope of this article but I shape women to be adventurous and independent with me. Suffice to say, you want to steer the conversation towards being adventurous, and doing what we wants without worrying what others think. Then Us-framing (a technique I teach in my LEAD7 Program) as a reward for her agreement. I create the sense that she and I are bad/naughty/rebels/troublemakers/a great team. We make our own rules and do what we want, like Bonnie and Clyde.
Here are some thoughts on the inner experience of all this. If you feel nervous, that’s OK. What’s not OK is not being OK with your nerves, and trying to hide them. Don’t do that. It helps to remind myself that men and women respect courage. It may be egotistical, but it gives me a small sense of pride to remember that the other men probably don’t have the balls, or skills, to approach a woman in a mixed group.
Here are some easy exercises to get you comfortable approaching mixed groups:
1. Talk to guys who aren’t out with girls. Get a sense of bantering and making small talk. There’s an art to quick, masculine interactions with guys you don’t know. You want to convey that you are a masculine, self-assured guy, but not cocky. You want to convey a lack of fear of other men, and plenty of physical energy, conveyed with a positive demeanor, and physical movement.
2. Approach women directly, on the street or in shopping areas. This grows your balls.
3. Tell a male-female couple that they are a good looking couple, tell the guy he’s the man, and walk away.
4. Go around the bar and tell three women they look great, with the same tonality as you would say, “Hey nice weather today,” or “How about those Dodgers?”
5. Approach women-only groups, using the “I don’t mean to interrupt” phrase. Get a sense of how the mom will act, taking note of the patterns of protective behavior. Get in the habit of being respectful of their time and space, so you can set the friends’ worries at ease.
6. Do the same with mixed groups. Focus on accepting your discomfort, rather than wearing a mask to hide it.
Notice that none of the strategies or tactics laid out are unnatural or strange behavior. All of this is designed to make you comfortable doing something VERY few men have the balls or skills to attempt, because of cultural conditioning. If you can step out of the matrix, you can explode your sex life. And as you’ve probably experienced, often the woman you want to meet is in a mixed group. So if you can’t approach her while she is in a group, you will miss out.
Meeting women in mixed groups is not relatively hard, compared to other life skills (cooking, driving, networking, fixing a flat tire, etc). Your biggest challenges will be fear, and lack of social awareness. Learn to pay attention to others while focusing on your woman, so you can see potential issues before they manifest into real obstacles.
Beyond that, it’s as simple as making a good direct approach – genuine, respectful, and bold. Keep it simple, and do not fall into the trap of thinking you need to impress anyone. I advise making an extra iota of effort to set the protector at ease, whether man or woman. If it’s a woman, add a compliment. If it’s a guy, make short small talk about sports, drinking, or work.
You like women. So you talk to them. You aren’t an asshole. So you respect her friends. If you see that you are interrupting, acknowledge it. Notice if anyone seems threatened by your presence, and make a modest effort to show them respect. This is what you would do if you were:
1. Not afraid of disapproval from others, because you like yourself, and
2. Not brainwashed by our society to think that sex lowers a woman’s value as a human being
Your sexual desire is natural and healthy. Our society tells us our sexuality is bad, but we should still try to get sex whenever we can. We are conditioned to think that sex is owned by women, but women are not SEXUAL.
We desire sex, but our desire is bad because sex diminishes a woman’s value. So we must trick women into giving us sex by saying and doing the “right things,” i.e. running game.
The idea that you cannot just walk up to a woman in a group and convey sexual interest comes from cultural conditioning. It is propaganda, presented as religion, morality, and science, to uphold “civilization.”
As long as men see women as enemies, we will remain in conflict, blind to the real issues facing our species.
As an 8 year veteran men’s dating coach, Brian Burke has trained thousands of men to enjoy their ideal sex lives with the women they really want. He doesn’t teach “game or seduction,” but Leadership. For ground breaking articles, courses, and live coaching info, check out GoBeyondDating.com
Josh Maverick | Airtight Game
1) Get Into a Resourceful State
Being able to get into a resourceful state is key if you want to experience success when out in the field. There are many ways to get into a resourceful, talkative state – some good and some downright destructive. Here’s one quick way I teach new students to get into resourceful state:
Recognize that the state that you’re in is only self-imposed and created by you – then focus on stepping into either (A) curiosity, (B) appreciation, or (C) gratitude. Once you recognize the state you’re in and instead choose to dial into one of these new aspects, go out there and express yourself from your new chosen viewpoint. Talk to people, move your body, move around the venue, and get the ball rolling. You’ll notice that after a few interactions this new viewpoint will start sticking more and more and your state will have shifted to a positive, productive state. For a look at more ways to get in state, as well as a ton of other aspects of inner game, check out my critically acclaimed book The Inner Game of Dating.
2) Be Yourself
At Airtight Game we teach guys like you to Become Your Best SelfTM. We teach them to do this through following a series of self-development exercises coupled with social freedom missions with individualized coaching along the way. In doing the earnest work of self-development, men like you are able to become the best versions of themselves possible, making it exponentially easier to attract women through a strong, congruent, present, honest identity of integrity.
Now, no matter if you’ve been in the self-development game for a few weeks, few months, or even less, now is NOT the time to pretend to be someone or something you’re not. If you’re not happy with the man you’re being, then change it – but that happens on your own time. When you’re out, present yourself as you really are, and if you’re a great guy, that’s going to come through. Be your self – your best self.
That doesn’t excuse you from having a rock solid plan of what you’re going to say, what you’re going to do, and how you’re going to do it – but that’s what training is for.
3) Approach and Add Value to the Group
If you want to have success with a woman whose out in a group, you’ll have to actually approach her. Once you do, you’ll have to be able to successfully interact with the different people that make up that group. I teach what I call the BID Model when out meeting women in groups, with BID standing for “Befriend, Ignore, Destroy”.
The first thing you want to do when you meet other men or women that are out with the woman you want to speak to is you want to befriend them. Befriend the group and the other people in it, if possible. You might be surprised to discover that in many cases they’re willing to help you guys get together – if you’ve shown yourself to be a good guy.
Your next alternative is to just ignore any obstacles in the group. If people don’t want to be friendly with you, then pay them no attention, as if they’re invisible, and continue to run your interaction without interruption.
As a last resort, if other people in the group are being openly aggressive or impeding the progress you’re making in building a connection with the woman you’re interested in, you can destroy their value. You do this with your words, never physically. Once you’ve been around the block a few times in this game you’ll find that you can easily tool guys when out if you have to.
By following the BID model you’ll be able to handle any other alpha males or alpha females when out meeting women, and you’ll be able to get success with the woman you’ve chosen in the group as well.
I hope these tips were helpful for you as you go out and meet women. If you have any questions at all, feel free to reach out to me over at Airtight Game.
Josh Maverick is a dating and lifestyle coach based out of Atlanta, Georgia and Tucson, Arizona. He believes that you can Become Your Best SelfTM through making a conscious commitment to growth and by undertaking personal and social freedom exercises designed to expand you as a man. He also believes that by communicating that best self through Integrity GameTM – the combination of the 4 key values of honesty, integrity, congruence, and presence along with training in communication and relating – you can rise to the occasion in every area of your life. Josh has been in the game for over a half decade and leads the Platinum Mastermind Coaching program at Airtight Game. Find him on Facebook here and subscribe to his YouTube Channel.
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QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to pick up a girl when he’s out with his guy friends, what 3 pointers would you give him?
Speer | Kings of Pickup
I know I have been quiet for the past year although I have been working on a major application outside of the pickup field but still in the social realm. Please support it: http://socialbrim.com. I am thankful to Rich James for asking me to contribute a few sentences to this article alongside my colleagues.
Over the years my mindset has changed drastically from the common PUA. I used to be truly influenced by the peer pressure and ridiculousness that happens in our community. Here are the three insights that have helped me succeed with women while going out with my guy friends.
1. Entrance – You know that one of the most important things when meeting someone is first impression. When entering a new venue with friends is no different. Make sure your having a good time and your body language is solid. Relax and don’t worry about opening immediately. A lot of guys listen to second tier pickup material will follow a subset of rules that instil immediate action. Those rules were created for people that do not take action. You on the other hand will!
2. Sweep – The sweep is opening up a moving set and walking besides her through the venue so others may notice your with a girl. (This can also be achieved by opening a standing/seating set and bouncing her around the venue) Remember they do not know your relationship to the girl and will assume your together. This will separate you from your friends for a small time and build pre-selection throughout the venue. This one action will create a wave of pre-selection and make the rest of your encounters easier. It will also give you a chance to scope the venue without looking like a troll.
3. Clean – Now you have entered with your friends, set a high social proof and confident presences. You have swapped the area, created a wave of pre-selection and scoped out your targets. Its time to clean house. At this point you want to begin engaging any lady that gave you any indicators of interest such as; proximity, solid eye contact, smiled at you, etc. At any point of the night. Remember you can also merge sets together using my hurricane theory.
The rest of your night should be easy, fun and enjoyable!
Mystery, from VH1’s The Pickup Artist, called Speer “the best in the world” and an MSNBC reporter said, “When you give him a hug, you get giddy and laugh”. Speer lived with Mystery in the original “Project Miami” mansion up until 2007. He then teamed up with Vince Kelvin and took over the infamous “Project Hollywood” as featured in the best selling book The Game. He’s recently set up a new “Project Miami” in the heart of south beach. Speer runs the largest dating conference in the world – The Global Pickup Conference, he is the creator of Speer Method, Kings of Pickup and author of a weekly newsletter to over 180,000 people. He’s currently working on an amazing new app (outside the pickup field but still in the social realm) – Social Brim. Be sure to support it and if you want to get social you can find Speer on Facebook and follow him on Twitter.
QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to pick up a girl who’s with a female friend in a bar, what 3 pointers would you give him?
Beckster | The Beckster Lifestyle
1) The Attitude:
One of the Beckster styles/modes of game is semi-direct, so not non-sexual indirect nor alpha direct, but a nice in-between to show your cheeky chappy side and that you can be sexual and don’t get stuck in the friends zone, but are not a predator or a sleaze bag.
I’ve been making a product on this that’s out in a few months with infield examples for everyone and currently teach it in my bootcamps – think Russell Brand or Alfie (Jude Law) not the Michael Cane version as that’s to direct and comes across as rude and arrogant!
2) The Style & Outer Game:
Maybe make a half cheeky joke about her having really sharp elbows as you walk by and pretend to bump into them and get hurt by them, or a cheeky bump with your hip to her ass them a smile and introduce yourself saying something like, “just seeing if you got a sense of humour to go with your looks. Hi I’m Beckster”, maybe even a spin to top it off 😉 Then turn and say “Hi you must be the best friend?”
3) The Inner Game & Mind Set:
With the mind set you must embody the 5 C’s I have found to be in Natural Gamers or “The Naturals” as we call them. They have Confidence, Congruency, Calibration, Courage & Conviction – by practising set piece you can start to get used to girls answers, replies and looks and become more natural. Also always great to try to feed off hooks.
Make sure you work the group equally so you don’t lose the girl, so the mind set for that should be if I win the friend over (maybe with laughter for example) then I win the girl, which you should be slightly more sexual and leading towards.
Beckster, famous for teaching some of the biggest names in the pickup world, is a celebrity dating coach with over 15 years of experience in the game. He is the creator of The Beckster Lifestyle, which is about living life on your own terms to become your best and most attractive self so you can attract the women you truly desire. Dubbed the UK’s first and original Pickup Artist he teaches “Naturally Seductive Game” which is a seamless combination of natural seducer beliefs and mindsets with Pickup Artist techniques. He conducts regular bootcamps both in London and around the world alongside his big name PUA wingmen: Mystery and Matador. Beckster runs a popular YouTube channel packed with some MUST SEE videos including Visual W*nking and how to exude sexual dominance when on a date. Like him on Facebook and follow him on Twitter.
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In regards to how one would approach a woman with friends my three pointers would be following:
1) Be aware of the judgement issue – the more friends or people watching the target the more judgment and insecurity they will feel. If she is with more than one friend I would approach the group, not speak to the target and do a direct approach with what I call an ‘instant isolation’. That means that I would say “Excuse me guys I’m just going to borrow your friend for 5 seconds as I’d like to ask her something”.
Never ask, just tell and assume their compliance.
Then, without removing her from the group or her friend(s) I make sure to touch her shoulder and angle her body away from them so that her back is turned to them. This has many benefits, the main one of which is that she is not longer looking at her friends and feeling judged or overheard.
2) If she is with one friend only who is female or male I often approach another stranger and say “Hi look I know this is bit weird and I don’t usually do this but my friend over there seems to really like you and I’d like to introduce you to him / her”. Of course this is a blatant lie but when you introduce the stranger to the target’s friend they often are so nervous they rarely wish to embarrass each other by asking “So what did you like about me” or “How do you know that guy Jonathan”.
It is incredibly counter intuitive and was inspired from one of the Sun Tzu’s Art of War Theories of using distraction to your advantage. As I am a huge proponent of speed seduction by the time the obstacle and the stranger’s conversation dies (usually 5 minutes or so) I already have enough attraction and rapport from the target.
Finally, it will give you a huge amount of social proof because they often are a little in shock and have a boring and unattractive conversation that then brings the focus back to you as the conversational ‘saviour’ because you’re more interesting.
3) Opinion openers are old school, cheesy and often come off as insincere unless you’re a very convincing liar who can pretend to truly care about “whether a cat can be gay”.
Save yourself some pride, man up and go direct. Approach and deliver the opener to the friend initially ignoring the target for only the first 30-60 seconds. I often say “Hi, I know this is going to sound a little weird but I saw your friend from over there and thought she was quite cute and wanted to come to talk to her but don’t particularly want to intrude on your conversation”.
This does a few things psychologically – when you approach it is often awkward as most women really know (if not suspect) why you are really there. Mentioning that you know it is “weird” and “a bit direct” or “a bit too forward” has the effect of making it OK. If you bring the awkwardness to the surface it actually isn’t a lingering thought int he back of their mind anymore as to “why is this guy really here”.
Secondly, the friend will never wish to look like a bitch and ruin an opportunity for her friend regardless of whether the friend actually approves of you. This way you leverage the social proof to your advantage you get overt social consent from the obstacle almost instantly.
Now, because the friend has already consented on the target’s behalf, the target will fell compelled not to go against their friend’s decision and risk embarrassing them or arguing with them. This will buy you the first 5 minutes of conversation, which gives you more than enough time to get a laugh or two and consequently attraction.
Jonathan S., aka “T” has been a dating coach in over 30 countries since 2004. He helps men with three main issues: how to approach, what to say after you open to generate humour and attraction and finally how to sexually escalate. T’s main concern has always been speed – he’s always looking at the fastest ways to to seduce women. He was made famous by his 60 second “number-close” technique which you can watch on YouTube here and later for his “Under 10min kiss-close” technique. He doesn’t teach lines but rather uses techniques to instigate his four simple principles for attraction which can be applied to any culture. T has a HUGE following on Twitter @howtoseduce.
Pierce Rainy | PUA Coach
It’s such a broad question and the atmosphere is important to know. The surroundings are important as well. Lots of variables make up how you would approach and handle a two set.
Did she meet her friend in the bar and have her own car? How tipsy is she? What’s her mood like? How into her friend is she?, etc… Ill assume this is a coffee bar and the girls are meeting up and are not intoxicated.
In a broad answer to your question I’d suggest figuring out which one you like and attempt to sit beside her and open conversation very nonchalantly as if you were not hitting on her at all. Good game should not be recognizable to even the expert eye.
Build some comfort with casual conversation then push into likes and dislikes of local areas or places, figure out her passions and interests. This should be good enough for a number close.
At this point you need to figure out what the girl will want to do. By now you should be able to get a feel if she will bounce to another location, if she is super into you or if she hasn’t really opened up yet.
Either, walk with the number, bounce to a new location or start making out. That’s a general idea, to sum up:
1) survey the scene
2) open conversation and build comfort
3) re-evaluate the situation, close or bounce to a new location.
As I said before this is a general response to a broad question. Many variables can come up that you will need to deal with but I think this is the easiest, safest way to achieve your goals.
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Dylan Thrasher | Dylan Thrasher
Your answers for a student picking up a girl at a bar who is with a friend:
1) Don’t ignore the friend – Not only do you need to appear socially well-balanced (i.e. not rude), but you should also give the feel of being a fun conversationalist who can handle potential future nights out with her and her friends. You’re not a predator, you’re a cool guy enjoying himself meeting people. That’s what you need to portray.
2) Don’t buy them drinks right away – You’re not paying for attention/validation and using the same line every other insecure bozo she’s met that night has used. She doesn’t want to feel like she owes you anything (i.e. her time) if she doesn’t like you, and she doesn’t even know you yet. Your attention and company is as valuable as hers.
Enjoy yourself, and if you find yourself in a great conversation for 20-30 minutes and you notice her (or her friend’s) glass emptying, then maybe you can use this to continue the naturally-flowing interaction you two are having.
Recap. Buying your woman a drink? Yes, be a gentleman. Buying A woman a drink after she has shown interest for a while. Sure. Buying a random girl a drink at a bar you’ve known for 10 seconds? No.
3) Be fun – No theatrics, no canned routines, no interview questions. Girls don’t come to bars with friends to meet guys who ask them where they live, what they do, if they have a boyfriend, and all that bullshit. Girls crave fun, often more than you do. Become a fun guy who knows how to flirt with women, not a guy that learn pickup routines, big difference. A lot of this comes from embracing your inner masculinity and becoming comfortable with saying what’s truly on your mind vs. what you think you should be saying, like I talk about in my book The Masculine Way.
Dylan Thrasher offers no nonsense life and relationship coaching, helping both men and women get what they want by removing limiting beliefs and showing them how to attain happiness and push for success. He specializes in the anthropological and sociological dynamics of people, life, dating and relationships and has helped thousands of people better their lives, attract the right partners, repair and improve the relationships they keep and learn when it is time to walk away. Check out his book, The Masculine Way and visit his site to learn more about how he can help you.
DJ Fuji | The Tao of DJ Fuji
The question was kind of unclear so I’m interpreting it as the guy is picking up a girl who is with HIS female friend (as in, they know each other and she brought a female friend). This eliminates the “approach” part of the equation and also makes it more important for him NOT to screw up and be weird because he’s going to see them again.
Question: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to pick up a girl who’s with a female friend in a bar, what 3 pointers would you give him?
1. Relax and don’t try to impress her. It’s going to feel artificial and lame. That means no “DHV” stories where you try to show how cool you are, no bragging, no trying to talk yourself up. “The lion doesnt need to roar.” Instead, treat her like a female friend you’re really comfortable with. Joke around with her. Tease her. Give her funny nicknames. Be affectionate.
2. Lead. Lead everything and everywhere. If someone has to make a decision or a move, it’s always your responsibility. You propose moving to a new bar. Or after partying. Or meeting up again later. Don’t put the onus of leadership on her or anyone else.
3. Be a gentleman. Open doors, walk on the outside, help her in/out of the car. A lot of guys think this is “wussy” but it’s only wussy if you’re doing it to IMPRESS her. Don’t do it to impress her. Do it because you’re a classy guy. There’s a reason you see guys like James Bond do stuff like this. Because class never goes out of style.
DJ Fuji is an internationally acclaimed motivational speaker and dating coach. He’s been featured in popular media including the New York Times, VH1, and The Dr. Phil Show. DJ Fuji’s structured, disciplined background comes from being both a United States Marine Corps Sergeant and a black belt with over a decade of martial arts training. He combines this “tough love” approach with professional experience in counseling, mentorship, and leadership coaching to provide his clients with actionable solutions, success-driven principles, and most importantly, real-world results. You can learn more about him on his website: The Tao of DJ Fuji and stay updated by following him on Twitter @djfujipua
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Michael Valmont | Core Evolve
1) You don’t have to engage the friend but having her on on-board will prevent her from cock blocking you later in the night.
2) Isolate her from her friend when you can to prevent any resistance when going for the number or escalating. Bring in another guy to deal with the friend if necessary.
3) If it’s early in the night and you aren’t getting a favorable response you can always leave and re-approach later, don’t forget to bring the fun vibe + giving mentality.
Michael Valmont is the founder and head coach of Core Evolve – a ground breaking improvement hub for people looking to transform their dating and social lives. Michael has coached hundreds of men across Europe, is committed to his clients’ results and is experienced with solving every issue a man can face both socially or in their dating life. Michael runs a popular YouTube channel packed with infield videos demonstrating how to meet and attract beautiful women wherever you are.
Robbie K | Inner Confidence
1) Have a great wingman. It is very advantageous to get uninterrupted one-on-one time while hitting on a girl at the bar. If she is willing to give you her undivided attention, it is a great sign that she is attracted to you. It also opens the door to creating a lasting connection which will significantly improve your chances of seeing her again, rather then becoming just another number in her phone.
A skilled wingman will be able to occupy your girls friend and give you that opportunity. Here are 8 rules for being an awesome wingman.
2) If you don’t have a wingman, you need to get her friend on your team.
When I first started hitting on girls in bars, I followed a lot of poor advice regarding teasing women. I teased girls relentlessly, and more often than not, took things way too far.
I remember meeting a gorgeous blonde in San Diego at a bar sometime in the summer of 2006. She was ordering a drink at the bar when I walked up and joked with her about a guy who had just fallen down drunk. I said “I can’t believe you’d bring your drunken dead beat dad to the bar with you” and she cracked up. I continued with this line of teasing and we were making out five minutes later. A few minutes after that her friend came over and I started teasing her as well, but her friend was not amused and made it her mission that night to c*ck block me.
Don’t make the same mistakes I did. Your job is to make sure her friend likes you, trusts you and thinks you’re cool.
When I was in Poland in the summer of 2012, I met Natalia and her friend Olga. Natalia was giving me the eye so I approached her at the bar. She gave me a ton of positive body language right off the bat and I knew she was in love. So I took the time to introduce myself to Olga and take an interest in her as well. I asked them how they met, how long they knew each other, and acted genuinely curious. I took them to another bar and got us a round of drinks. Natalia and I were making out all night and when it came time to leave, Olga approached her and said “You need to be a good hostess and show Robbie around Wroclaw right now.” Natalia said “But what about you? I want to leave with you since I’m staying at your house.” Olga said “No, I will be fine, you’re going with Robbie, I insist.” I couldn’t believe my ears. She literally strong armed Natalia into coming back to my hotel and when we were having sex later that morning, I owed it all to Olga. Check out this video where I demonstrate how to hit on a girl with her friend walking down the sidewalk. If you don’t have a wingman, turn her friend into your wingman as I did in the video.
3) Remember that Social Protocol (TM) conquers all. Social Protocol is saying the right thing at the right time, not saying the wrong thing at the wrong time, reading social cues, leaving when it’s time to leave, etc.
I was doing some one-on-one field work with a client in LA last April when we approached two girls at the bar. My girl was showing me tons of love but unfortunately my client was NOT having much luck with his girl. Most guys will get so lost in their own conversation that they lose their awareness on what is happening around them.
It is very important to notice how your wingman is doing because if your girl’s friend is bored, she will blow up your spot before you know it. After about 90 seconds, my girl was laughing at all my jokes, touching me and exuding all signs of attraction.
My client’s girl was looking around bored and giving her friend the “save me” look. I whispered to my girl “I see your friend giving you the look… you know that look like that she wants my friend dead, I don’t think she could be any less interested in him ;)” She said “yeah, I should probably get back to her, but take my number.”
My ability to read the situation gave me extra points in her book. Most guys are clueless and this gives me a huge leg up on the competition. If you want to improve your understanding of Social Protocol, check out this video.
Robbie K will teach you how to boost your social IQ and date the women you want. Founder of Inner Confidence, he offers a comprehensive curriculum to transform men into attractive, confident, well dressed and socially savvy individuals to stand out from the pack and get noticed by women. Click here to visit Robbie’s Facebook page.
Christian Anderson | Let’s Talk Dating
1) Don’t think. Just do. Do not wait more than 60 seconds for the approach. If you are unable to think of an approach, then take 2-5 minutes max to think of your approach and then GO. You are more confident and loose when you are not in your head and just committing to the moment. You may go down in flames, but who cares. You are a man. The more time you waste, the less opportunity you have, and the more you give to the other Joe’s who are on the prowl.
2) Do not be a statistic. 90% of the guys in the room are thinking the same thing you are but will NEVER go over to her, especially if she has a friend. But you are different. You will be part of the 10% and she will respect you just for being apart of that sliver of the male population. Remember, women intuitively respond to confidence and courage. Those traits can be reflected in numerous ways. Every woman knows how nerve-racking it is for a man to cross the room and strike up a conversation. By just doing it you are in an elite group.
3) Play them off of each other. The two set is actually easier in some ways. You do not have to make a decision which one you are interested in, but instead, can strike up a harmless conversation with them both about an Object of Interest. Girls love to talk and the two of them might be bored with each other or love the humor of the male species. Don’t worry, you are not hitting on them. You are striking up a conversation about something in the room. Make them laugh, share your eye contact and do not stand limp. You can do a quick drive-by and say, “Sorry to interrupt, my buddy and I are in an on going argument about what looks sharper on a man, scruff or no scruff. You got to help me out. We need a woman’s point of view.” Bing…women love to give fashion advice and talk about men. Now you are the harmless guy who is seeking their opinion. Then start to have fun and use your charm. Challenge one’s opinion against the other. “Wait, wait , wait…someone’s drinking the kool-aid here! You just changed your mind. Who swayed you…your friend or was it the faint 5 o clock shadow I am struggling to grow?”
After succeeding and failing night in night out whilst working as a promoter for many years in the LA nightlife scene, Christian Anderson gradually formulated a process that helps both men and women gain confidence in themselves and put their right foot forward in this new dating world. Call him your coach, consultant, wingman or guide, Christian is dedicated to helping men and women make the right decisions so they can find a healthy relationship. Follow him on Twitter @LetsTalkDating.
QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to pick up an HB10 in a bar, what 3 pointers would you give him?
Bobby Rio | TSB Mag
The first thing a guy needs to do is figure out an intention for the conversation. This means they need to know what their end goal is. This will keep them focused and moving things forward. So, do they want to get her phone number? Try to hook up with her in the bar? Go home with her that night?
Once you decide what your intention is, you now to have to flip your mindset to think “how can I have the most fun with this conversation”.
Because ultimately, when a girl is at a bar (or club) she’s looking to have fun. Fun is what I call “the ultimate currency” which means we always choose to be around the person we have the most fun with. So figure out how you can be THAT GUY.
Using a fun banter line is a great way to spark the “fun vibe.”
However, there are two other ingredients that make up the “Triangle of Temptation.” These ingredients and Connection and Sexuality (along with FUN).
This means while you’re having fun with her, you have to mix in connection and sexuality. Connection means you’re showing her multiple sides of personalty, and learning things about her. Sexuality means that that you’re eliciting a sexual response in her.
When you can do all three of those things… she’s going to want to be around you. She’s going to be the one trying to keep the conversation going. She’s going to be working for your approval. And thats when it gets easy.
Bobby Rio is the founder and Editor in Chief of TSBMag.com, a website rich in dating and lifestyle advice that’s not creepy or weird like a lot of other PUA blogs out there. He made the site in 2005 to put all his years of experience with women in one place and it is has since expanded to become the most famous hub of honest PUA information in the industry. Bobby also created Make Small Talk Sexy, a product that does exactly what it says on the tin and is the co-author of Magnetic Messaging – an eEbook that teaches you the art of texting girls. Check out our Magnetic Messaging Review to see what we made of this amazing phone game product.
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Tripp | Tripp Advice
1) Don’t focus on the outcome – The more and more you focus on “what could happen” or “will she reject me” the more likely it will occur. Beautiful women can tell when you are nervous and the nervousness will stem from your focus on the OUTCOME. Go into the approach just excited to get to know this woman and be present in the interaction.
2) Don’t use a pick-up line! – Instead go up to her and just say something like “hello” or “you looked nice I had to come meet you”. Opinion openers or other lines that guys have been using are cheesy and give you a higher chance of rejection. After the opener branch into normal conversation that will get her interested in who you are as a person.
3) Give her constant eye contact – Eye contact is a great seduction tool. It makes her feel that you’re confident and also makes the interaction 10x more flirty. Hold eye contact with her the entire time you speak. Intense eye contact will also make you appear more dominant which will then make her feel more feminine around you. That’s the goal! You want her to feel feminine because that is what will make her feel sexy and attracted to you.
After realising his life needed a serious makeover, Tripp spent two and a half years going out 3-5 times a week in LA to master the art of attraction. He then put together his own formula for attracting women, holding conversation, escaping the friend zone and living the lifestyle of his choosing. Tripp offers dating advice for men covering confidence, attraction and flirting so they can naturally attract the women they desire. Check out his coaching page to learn how he can help you, and make sure you subscribe to his popular YouTube Channel, like him on Facebook here and follow him on Twitter @trippddvice.
Mehow | Mehow.tv
I really hate that question even though I get it all the time. Thats like giving a guy who’s never raced a car before “3 easy tips” on wining a Gran Prix. Ya I could give you tips like, have high value velocity, calibrate, have super solid unwavering “left eye” eye contact and tactically setup the set before hand by social proofing nearby sets. But it won’t matter cause you’re typical new guy will never execute any of this stuff correctly without practice first. And for things to work (aka getting a solid number) you have to be able to be solid for at least 30 mins.
Pickup is a process of overall transformation in what you’re saying, how you’re saying it, who your talking to, and most importantly, why you are doing all those things.
Once you understand the why everything works you can gain unconscious competence and do it all on autopilot. Until you’re say 60% of the way there then “3 tips” won’t help you. I would estimate only 1/20 of men are even remotely ok at actual pickup to the point where a few tips would help them.
A master of kino and one of the most famous PUAs out there, Mehow discovered the world of seduction after attending a bootcamp taught by one of the founders of pick up in 2006. After a series of initial failures, Mehow learned to meet and “close” with beautiful women and began to coach with some of the biggest names in the seduction community. He soon developed his own methodology and launched a number of ground breaking PUA products to help men meet and attract more women. Check out his popular 3 Second Attraction product here and be sure to subscribe to MehowTV on YouTube.
QUESTION: If you could just give 3 brief pointers to a student before he attempts to approach and pick up a girl on the dance floor, what 3 pointers would you give him?
Brad P | BradP.com
Want to pick up girls on the dancefloor? Here’s a technique that works great for me, even though I can’t dance at all.
I’m a really REALLY bad dancer, since I am tall and awkward. The technique I am sharing with you today has been tested by many bad dancers, including tall, medium and super short guys.
Remember, girls move on and off the dancefloor throughout the night. When they are on the dancefloor, their guard is up, but when they are standing on the side watching, it’s a great time to make them notice you.
Look for a group of girls dancing in a circle. You know, the “stay out, no men allowed” kind of circle.
Next, walk right up to the circle and jump right into the middle. Throw your hands up over your head and start dancing full out.
Reflexively, all the chicks will yell “WOOOOO!” and they will get a spike of energy.
Once you hear the WOOO, grab the closest girl and start dancing with her. Put your arms around her, dip her, spin her, and then tell her “you’re elimidated.”
Now do the same thing to the other 3 girls in the group. Dance, spin, dip, elimidate.
Last step (and this might sound counterproductive, but trust me it works great)- Now walk away from these girls and start talking to the girls who were standing on the outskirts of the dancefloor watching.
The girls in the circle were never the girls you were after, they are just pawns in the game. You create a superstar impression for yourself by attracting them and then ditching them. Then you talk to girls off the dance floor who might have been observing what was going on.
This technique works even for beginners.
Brad P, known for his privacy, has regularly been voted the world’s #1 pick up artist for being infamously successful with women. Early on, Brad made a name for himself by always demonstrating his techniques live for his students in his Underground Dating Seminar. He then released the 30/30 Club – a revolutionary seduction curriculum dubbed the most advanced course to hit the scene. It’s a year long program and even has its own forum. Brad P’s latest project is the Brad P Pickup Mansion in Hollywood, where students can live and learn there from established PUAs directly. Click here to visit his site and check out Brad’s brand new Black-Book method here. (It’s pretty advanced stuff).
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Josh M | PUA SA
3 brief pointers for dance floor game:
1) Have fun! Most guys get onto the dance floor and spend their time with blank facial expressions. It’s obvious that they are on the prowl and make their intentions far too apparent, staring at girls instead of focusing on having a good time! SMILE, have fun and girls will come to YOU!
2) Once girls see you are having fun, they will be drawn to you and your energy. THEY will start to stare. Once that happens, you have your IOI. Make eye contact and dance a little closer to her… and closer… and closer until you are close enough that you can introduce yourself by whispering your name in her ear. Once you have done this, go straight back to dancing with your friends (push pull).
3) Go back to her intermittently and this is where KINO comes in. Start with small, quick and gentle touches in appropriate areas (arm, wrist, shoulder), before gradually taking her hands. Have fun with her and perform some playful kino (dancing, spinning her, thumb wars etc.). It’s vital that this kino gradually sexually escalates and eventually you will be able to isolate her.
Josh M is a lead instructor at South Africa’s central hub for pick up – Puasa.co.za. The company runs bootcamps out of Johannesburg, South Africa, with flawless, tried and tested material especially designed for picking up South African girls. PUA SA teaches “Natural Game” where you can develop through practical, field-tested tools and techniques to approach and attract almost ANY girl you desire. The company has a wealth of happy students and they will soon be expanding to run more workshops around the country soon.
Arash Dibazar | Seductive Instinct
Originally trained by Mystery and Matador, Arash Dibazar (aka Achilles) is a martial artist, lifestyle coach and professional pickup artist. He was featured in Neil Strauss’ critically acclaimed book, The Game, and has developed his own unique style of pickup. Arash believes that seduction is an instinct that is present in every man and can be awakened with the right guidance. He is legendary for turning men into alpha male seducers and was voted the best PUA instructor in the community twice in 2012. His YouTube Channel is regularly updated with plenty of fresh, awesome content to help you unleash your seductive instinct.
Nick Sparks | Sparks of Attraction
1) Have a great time dancing with your friends first – if you’re standing around awkwardly, not enjoying the same vibe as everyone else, it’ll be that much more difficult if you do try to talk to a women.
Even if you’re alone, your first step is to dance and enjoy yourself – the point of these types of gatherings in the first place.
Guys shouldn’t do anything too crazy – no need to bust out your moves in the middle of a circle, but you should be moving your body to the beat in a way that feels good for you.
2) Eye Contact. While I’m enjoying myself, I’ll be checking women out (so that they can feel me checking them out) and see if I can “dig” any eye contact out of them. If I get that eye contact returned from a woman (and I don’t look away like I’m afraid) she’s just invited me to come talk to her and I’ll get a positive response 100% of the time.
Don’t be thrown off if a women quickly looks away because she’s nervous, you can relate and it just means she likes you. I’ll keep checking her out and when she peeks back I’ll smile because I just caught her checking me out. Never miss a peek-back!
3) You have to be physically aggressive in these environments. It’s high-energy, high-sensation. If you go up and try to have a nice conversation with her you won’t be giving her the rush of sensation that she wants just then. It’s important that you get VERY close at first, and touch a lot. Use little words, just a quick back and forth of “How’s it going?” before getting closer and dancing.
After you’ve made intense initial contact it’s good to back away, maybe spin her or something, but you should be much closer and more physically aggressive overall.
Over the last five years Nick Sparks has helped hundreds of men achieve the social and dating lives they’ve always dreamed of. He teaches his Sparks of Attraction seduction bootcamp for students he believes all have an innate ability to be social and confident around women. Nick makes it his mission to guide men to find that inner ability and take control of their lives. Watch him seduce this cute girl in an “interview” here and be sure to check out his active Facebook page.
Nick Rogue | SameNightSeduction.com
1) You want to get her off the dance floor as quickly as possible (especially if you’re not a great dancer). The dance-floor is a trap and the REAL seduction occurs when you are off the dance floor and can apply all your sexual escalation tools properly.
2) Resist all urges to do the “classic” high-five spin move. What is this 2005!? That move is a bit played now. If you can dance, do it for a few moments, the make up an excuse to move because the last thing you want to do is spend your entire night on the dance floor
3) Better than all of the above, avoid the dance floor in general. Trust me on this, you’ll have far better results anywhere else in the bar than on a crowded, sweaty dance floor. She won’t be dancing all night either. At some point she will go to the bathroom or get a drink. It’s when she’s out and about sauntering through the bar that you stand your best chance.
It should be noted, I’m a shitty dancer…but while those flashy dancers are at best dry-humping some girl on the dance floor that’s eventually going to “feel slutty” for doing that and make up excuses why she has to leave with her friends, I’ll be long gone doing some REAL humping with the girl of my choice.
After years of infield-testing Nick Rogue created the Same Night Seduction System, a system designed for one thing – to turn you into a guy who can walk into a bar and leave with a hot girl on your arm. Nick makes it possible for average guys to hook up with outrageously hot women and take them home the same night by unlocking women’s primal sexual side. Find Nick on Facebook or follow him on Twitter @CharmingRogue.
Greg K | GK Dating
With dance floor game, which has some of the trickiest logistics out there, you want to give yourself the best odds possible before you’ve approached the girl. Ask yourself these three questions:
Is this my kind of scene?: Not all clubs are built alike. There are house clubs, hip-hop clubs, retro-music clubs and salsa clubs, each with varying music, cover charges, exclusivity and types of women. Make sure you’re going someplace where you’d have fun even if every girl blew you out — that’s going to give you the confidence you need.
Do I have a game plan?: If your club requires getting there early or getting bottle service, you need to plan for that. Think about pregame logistics, such as finding a table to bring girls to, or getting yourself in the right mood with your friends. Ditto for your post-club logistics — if you hope to bounce with a girl or take her home, you’d better know exactly how you’d arrange for that. If you need to drive your friends back home in another city, good luck going back to her place.
Can I dance well at all?: Because let’s face it, you should be able to dance at a dance club. I’m not saying you need to be as good as Usher. But if you can get on a dance floor with your friends with a big smile on your face and confidently move around, the women will take note and gather near you. Then, it’s just a matter of making eye contact and drawing her in. If you can’t dance, ask someone for pointers or just watch some YouTube videos.
Greg K, an ex San Francisco social coach, has saved hundreds of men from social catastrophe and helped them meet plenty of femme fatales along the way. Although mostly retired from coaching these days after a glorious 2½ year run, he still occasionally offers live, private instruction to both men and women. Greg is currently cramming his years of experience into a new book about pickup logistics with his fellow ex-instructor Rob Overman. Check out a sample Chapter of his new book here.
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